Ben Martin

Writer for national real estate opinion column AgentGenius.com, focusing on the improvement of the real estate industry by educating peers about technology, real estate legislation, ethics, practices and brokerage with the end result being that consumers have a better experience.

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  1. Rob Hahn

    Interesting points, Ben. But even your shifted metric has no data available, no proof in the pudding.

    Return on Engagement still connotes a return on an activity. In the marketing world, the key isn’t the result per se (the transaction) but “lift over control”. Meaning, holding all other factors equal, does Activity X result in a significant, measurable improvement over not doing Activity X?

    You can draw a squiggly line — you networked in real life. You got papers published, etc. etc. Would another person who also networked, who also got papers published, etc. have had the same success you did without blogging or social networking?

    If the answer is Yes, then all of your blogging and social networking had zero return on engagement as well.

    I’ll post more over at Notorious, as your well-considered post deserves an equally well-considered response. :)

    -rsh

  2. Sparky

    Ben – Thanks! You answered my question!….

  3. Todd Carpenter

    I totally see your point Ben, but for me, there’s no such thing as spare time. The monetary cost of social media may be very low, but the time it takes is considerable. That same time could be used to cold call, or send out a newsletter, or even kick back and watch hockey. No matter what, it’s not free.

  4. Todd Carpenter

    I see unproductive and spare as the same thing. Time is time, and If I’m going to devote it to work, it has to pay off. My blogging efforts have definitely paid off, but if the time was better spent doing some outside of the web, I’d drop blogging in an instant.

    I totally agree with you knowledge analogy. Websites tell customers that “I’m the expert”. Blogs prove it.

  5. Sparky

    Time is still money, regardless of whether it’s unproductive time or otherwise. So in some sense, you probably could measure/gauge the ROI on your social networking time. But for me, I don’t see the value of qualifying something that I already know if working effectively.

  6. Wade Young

    I don’t have any unproductive time. At work I am busy from the time I arrive until the time I force myself to depart. At home I have a wife and a 5 year old — enough said. The fact that the social media isn’t paying off in real dollars for so many people is disconcerting to me. I know that some people hit home runs, but most bloggers fail to produce results in the dollars category, at least as far as I can tell. I agree that people should blog if it works versus doing something they hate — such as making cold calls. I like networking, so I spend a lot of time at that. Blogging isn’t a zero cost endeavor. The cost is extremely high. Doing it right requires a lot of time, and time is the most valuable thing any of us has. I think it also requires a tremendous amount of patience as those who do see results in terms of dollars often do not see them until they have been blogging for quite some time.

  7. Laura S Flournoy

    Ben,
    Never has it been so obvious to me that while for some the cup is half full…. to others it is half empty. Social media does seem to have played a very important role in your life and career. But I would be willing to bet that your disposition has added the immeasurable successes to your career, and would no matter what field you were in. Great writing.

  8. Bob

    Now, consider the opportunity costs of not sharing your expertise. If you don’t write about what you know, the only people who benefit from your knowledge are you and your current clients. Knowledge is a Realtor’s greatest asset and to not share it is to squander it. Basically, to not share your expertise widely is like holding your expertise in inventory, and everyone knows that holding inventory costs money.

    i like this paragraph. I think it is the crux of the value of blogging. I don’t write trivia, I seek to write what engages the reader in such a way as to meet a need. As a result, what I have written about over the last 6 months has engaged hundreds and is now generating several listings a week. By June 1st, it will easily be a listing a day.

    What I don’t do is write for the sake of writing. I’m not that good a writer and not that interesting a read.

    Knowledge is a Realtor’s greatest asset,

    It’s that principle that is the Achilles heel for many agents who blog with no results because they have little knowledge to bring to the table and it shows in what what they write about.

  9. Andy Kaufman

    I’ve thought about this for a while and what I’ve determined is that your ROI from Social Media Marketing is closely aligned with how much you’ve embraced it as a way of life.

    Social Media Marketing is MUCH bigger than blogging. It’s commenting, it’s twittering, it’s facebooking, it’s flickring photos, it’s digging & stumbling articles. We use these tools to connect and to help each other out which in turn it helps us. My network is my personal community. I’m continually looking to build it and interact with it in ways that provide value so that when I need something, I’ve already built a reserve of social capital to draw upon.

    Another thing…Online friends are great, but crossing that digital divide and connecting offline makes those bonds that much stronger. That’s the reason why SXSW rocked so much. There were great panels and great parties, but getting the chance to connect with so many of my online friends in real life was what really made it so special.

    Plus you get to learn things like… Benn really doesn’t have a perpetual coffee mug in front of his face 24/7 ;)

  10. ines

    Putting everything aside – to think of all the friends that would welcome me into their cities all around the nation that I wouldn’t have known if it weren’t for social networking is truly amazing. I received 3 referrals this week through social networking. To me it’s a no-brainer – but it does take time. If I wouldn’t enjoy it, it would be a totally different conversation.

  11. Jacob Morgan

    right on Andy, we definitely have the same point of view on this (thanks for the blog comment by the way). Social media is all about crossing the digital divide and connecting with people offline!

    Looking forward to the barcamp, sounds like an awesome time

    Jacob

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