Jim Duncan

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Dad, Husband, Charlottesville Realtor, real estate Blogger, occasional speaker - Inman Connects, NAR Conferences - based in Charlottesville, Virginia. A native Virginian, I graduated from VMI in 1998, am a third generation Realtor (since 2001) and have been "publishing" as a real estate blogger since January 2005. I've chosen to get involved in Realtor Associations on the local, state & national levels, having served on the NAR's RPR & MLS groups. Find me in Charlottesville, Crozet and Twitter.

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17 Comments

  1. Bob Wilson

    Any NAR director that votes to share this with R.com should be tarred and feathered, boiled in oil, and then drawn and quartered.

  2. Rob Hahn

    Jim -

    Do you think that Move just stepped aside gracefully as LPS/Cyberhomes took over the project?

    I rather think that we’ll be seeing all of this data on Realtor.com, along with many of these features on RPR, on Realtor.com before the end of 2010.

    -rsh

  3. Bob Wilson

    @RobHahn, will the end result be greater NAR control of R.com, or just the monetization of the data?

  4. John Wake

    Absolutely right, Bob! I’m absolutely, positively against NAR doing anything to strengthen Realtor.com and it’s vendor-for-life, Move Inc. NAR should promote the heck out of RPR to consumers on a website separate from Realtor.com. Watch the enhancement fees Realtor.com charges us plummet! Competition is a beautiful thing. Hopefully, it could evolve into a replacement for Realtor.com and so avoid Move’s vendor-for-life status.

    Cyberhomes was a great website in search of a business proposition. They didn’t know how to monetize it. The programmers did a great job. The business managers were completely clueless.

  5. Matt Stigliano

    Jim – If the data is sold back to the local MLS, what would be the advantage of continuing to use the MLS? I have everything I need straight from the source (RPR) in terms of data. The MLS in effect becomes a middle man between me and RPR, yet I have direct access to RPR. I fail to see how this can be a good thing for any MLS.

    Surely Move would have something in their contract that keeps NAR from building a public facing website off of this. At least I would think they would. I don’t think we’ll see the death of Realtor.com because of this. I’d like to, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how it works. I’m definitely a “hands on” kind of learner, so when they let me toy with it, I’ll really be able to form some opinions.

    I’m still wrapping my head around it all, so please feel free to point out anything obvious I’ve overlooked.

  6. Matt Thomson

    Matt, won’t the MLS still be necessary for real estate agents? How will non-Realtors have access to this information? How will Realtors have access to information about which homes are for sale, showing info, etc if all RPR is is a property information database?
    I think this sounds like a very exciting proposal and a very good tool for NAR to 1) increase their membership and 2) gain control of a prominent website.

  7. Matt Stigliano

    Matt – Good question about non-Realtors®. Perhaps this is a bit of a move on NAR’s part to increase the need to be a Realtor® as well. From what I understood it will contain status information (active, sold, etc.), but I could be completely wrong there.

    Something in my head tells me that this is a slow charted course for domination. Get it out there, get people using it, get them to love it and leave other tools behind, bring in more membership, and eventually make all other tools obsolete. If they can pull it off (and it is their long term plan), it would be pretty impressive and sheer genius on NAR’s part.

  8. Matt Stigliano

    Jim – In my “selling data back to MLS” comment, I was referring to the possibility of RPR selling the data other than listings. If they have all this demographic info, school info, consumer spending habits info…and sell it back to the MLS (which I think would be one of the angles they could use to monetize this project) – that’s where I see the problem. If I can get it at RPR, why use my local MLS to look at the same data?

    Great point about how if we are able to publish the info on our sites that Move could easily be marginalized. Of course, we’d need to look at how many will actually work to add this info to their sites. Think of all the tools available that many people just don’t “get” or use.

    Thanks for the info about the Professionalism work group. I’ll be very interested in seeing where that leads. I’m all for it – even if it means I need some more training.

  9. Eric Bramlett

    If done properly, this could be an extremely beneficial move for all Realtors. The current system is ridiculously inefficient. Standardizing the data, and using one system, will allow technology to improve, and to become cheaper (which is the natural progress for technology.)

    Right now, the technology providers have incredibly poor products. If NAR builds a better system, I’m all for it. I do hope that they will allow third party vendors access to the data, in order to build competing products. A nice API would be nice.

    And Bob, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I’ll be at NAR headquarters with a bucket if that happens. You can bring the feathers.

  10. Tony Sena

    My biggest concern would be what they might charge for the data feed. From what I am reading, it appears free for real estate agents to use the platform but I didn’t read anywhere about the data feed being free.

    I would have to imagine there will be a fee for this and if local MLSs get fazed out, due to their lack of cooperation, the cost of the feed could be to high for the average real estate agent.

  11. Calgary Real Estate by Chris

    I heard through the grapevine that Move.com’s agreement is coming to an end with them. Exactly how this is going to play out remains to be seen, however, I think this is going to be a major step forward for REALTOR.com and a very useful for Joe Homeowner. The question in my mind is how does it benefit the agent directly?

  12. Greg Cooper

    Overly simplified but A) Can’t help but wonder if NAR will screw it up. B) I suspect the innovators will have long since stolen the keys to the kingdom and ‘out NAR’, NAR before this thing ever hits. GREAT piece Jim.

  13. Jim Duncan

    Thanks, Greg. Regarding your #1 – That’s why I edited my post in order to protect myself should they screw up. :)

  14. Stillwater Real Estate

    Let me get this straight – the RPR is a database of properties based on information gathered from tax records (which can be horribly inaccurate and/or inadequate in some areas), MLS data (which can be horribly inaccurate and/or inadequate in all areas), and appraisal data from First American (insert your own appraisal joke here) ??

    I’m not saying I can think of a better way…..yet. I’m just sayin’

  15. Mario Antretter

    The NAR and their so-called members or better yet “realtors” should be worried and here’s why:

    1. Not all but most saw the end of the tunnel (Technology) and didn’t adapt

    2. Did the NAR and their “realtors” really think this monopoly would be forever? I am no history major but monopolies hence Microsoft get broken up all the time.

    3. If the NAR and their “realtors” do not come to terms with the (DOJ) Department of Justice the internet and discount brokers will put them out of a home.

    4. The MLS may have started out as a good idea but the internet is the way to reach many more consumers or potential home buyers and sellers. A public MLS system needs to be in place.

    Agents should be worried, people are smarter than ever.
    I for one don’t have a realtors license however I know exactly how to go about buying and selling a home. I have a very good lawyer as well. The need for an agent has declined rapidly. It’s sad I know more than some agents do and I work in the IT industry.

  16. Susie Blackmon

    Of all the comments, Mario’s might have been the most realistic. Time will tell.

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