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		<title>By: Where Does The Commission Go When I Sell?</title>
		<link>http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/real-estate/thrive-survive-thrive/#comment-26427</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Does The Commission Go When I Sell?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in business. Big operators spend more. Russell Shaw wrote a post a while ago in which he revealed he&#8217;d plowed $500,000 into his business by May 18 of this year. For me, I&#8217;ve got to make at least $30,000 in gross commissions before I can begin thinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in business. Big operators spend more. Russell Shaw wrote a post a while ago in which he revealed he&#8217;d plowed $500,000 into his business by May 18 of this year. For me, I&#8217;ve got to make at least $30,000 in gross commissions before I can begin thinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Melina Tomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melina Tomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like BB have a home office, which means low overhead, which I am very thankful for.

We have had our larger franchises here close offices and consolidate.

Interestingly our local limited service rep company has been going gangbusters.  He has tons of listings.  Maybe since we in Oregon weren&#039;t &quot;hit&quot; like other parts of the country our limited rep guy is holding his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like BB have a home office, which means low overhead, which I am very thankful for.</p>
<p>We have had our larger franchises here close offices and consolidate.</p>
<p>Interestingly our local limited service rep company has been going gangbusters.  He has tons of listings.  Maybe since we in Oregon weren&#8217;t &#8220;hit&#8221; like other parts of the country our limited rep guy is holding his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Purcell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Purcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, great post.

Barry,

If the fish likes your bait you have great marketing.  If the fish bites the hook consider yourself prospecting... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, great post.</p>
<p>Barry,</p>
<p>If the fish likes your bait you have great marketing.  If the fish bites the hook consider yourself prospecting&#8230; <img src='http://agentgenius.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Barry Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s some serious branding Russell has and should be emulated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s some serious branding Russell has and should be emulated!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the Fuller Brush Man. Their door knocking was their marketing. Avon&#039;s marketing was to brand their prospecting with &quot;Avon Calling&quot;.

In one master planned community here, one agent in particular has been door knocking since 1987. in a reader&#039;s poll, he was voted the #1 recognizable business in the community. Most of the 20k in the community have met him face to face. His prospecting is his marketing.

The flip side is the call I got from someone relocating from Scottsdale last Friday. I asked him if he had a hired a listing agent yet. He said no, but that he knows  several. I asked him if he knew Russell Shaw  and he literally roared with laughter and then quoted Russ&#039; commercial. He said everyone in Phoenix knows &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; Russell Shaw is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the Fuller Brush Man. Their door knocking was their marketing. Avon&#8217;s marketing was to brand their prospecting with &#8220;Avon Calling&#8221;.</p>
<p>In one master planned community here, one agent in particular has been door knocking since 1987. in a reader&#8217;s poll, he was voted the #1 recognizable business in the community. Most of the 20k in the community have met him face to face. His prospecting is his marketing.</p>
<p>The flip side is the call I got from someone relocating from Scottsdale last Friday. I asked him if he had a hired a listing agent yet. He said no, but that he knows  several. I asked him if he knew Russell Shaw  and he literally roared with laughter and then quoted Russ&#8217; commercial. He said everyone in Phoenix knows <i>who</i> Russell Shaw is.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that if you read again the first two paragraphs of Bill&#039;s comments you will have the correct viewpoint on this.  Obviously, all actions that get business are &quot;good&quot;, so we are not talking about the goodness or effectiveness of any particular action - just defining terms.

Effective marketing is getting the consumer to think of you or your product in a certain way - owning shelf space in their mind, if you will.  Although it can be accomplished by talking to someone one on one, that isn&#039;t possible for a national company when they want to reach millions of people.  So they market to those people.  So when referring to marketing I am really not talking about calling people or stopping by to talk to them - for me that falls into the prospecting category.  

This isn&#039;t to argue about words but to clarify thinking.  If there is confusion on these particular terms it will make it impossible to take the discussion further as we won&#039;t be communicating.  If one wants or has &quot;a job&quot;, then it makes no difference what they think those words mean.  If they intend to &quot;have a business&quot; (continues to make money if you are there or not) then it becomes vital that one correctly grasp the distinct meanings here.  Not just &quot;a meaning&quot; but to have a *suitable* definition for both of those terms.  In the long run it is necessary to have a marketing based operation (unless your goal is to run a boiler room) if one is going to have a &quot;big business&quot;.  It just isn&#039;t physically possible to wind up doing hundreds and hundreds of transactions if the only way of getting business is prospecting or asking for referrals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that if you read again the first two paragraphs of Bill&#8217;s comments you will have the correct viewpoint on this.  Obviously, all actions that get business are &#8220;good&#8221;, so we are not talking about the goodness or effectiveness of any particular action &#8211; just defining terms.</p>
<p>Effective marketing is getting the consumer to think of you or your product in a certain way &#8211; owning shelf space in their mind, if you will.  Although it can be accomplished by talking to someone one on one, that isn&#8217;t possible for a national company when they want to reach millions of people.  So they market to those people.  So when referring to marketing I am really not talking about calling people or stopping by to talk to them &#8211; for me that falls into the prospecting category.  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to argue about words but to clarify thinking.  If there is confusion on these particular terms it will make it impossible to take the discussion further as we won&#8217;t be communicating.  If one wants or has &#8220;a job&#8221;, then it makes no difference what they think those words mean.  If they intend to &#8220;have a business&#8221; (continues to make money if you are there or not) then it becomes vital that one correctly grasp the distinct meanings here.  Not just &#8220;a meaning&#8221; but to have a *suitable* definition for both of those terms.  In the long run it is necessary to have a marketing based operation (unless your goal is to run a boiler room) if one is going to have a &#8220;big business&#8221;.  It just isn&#8217;t physically possible to wind up doing hundreds and hundreds of transactions if the only way of getting business is prospecting or asking for referrals.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Rich...are you sure you want to be agreeing with me so soon after being announced as the newest AG contributor..LOL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Rich&#8230;are you sure you want to be agreeing with me so soon after being announced as the newest AG contributor..LOL <img src='http://agentgenius.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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