Comments on: Realtors Coming Out of the Closet http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/ News About Real Estate Social Media, Marketing, Technology Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:03:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jacci - Austin Realtor http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-44787 Jacci - Austin Realtor Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:22:46 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-44787 It is hard to gain alot of business from R.com, Trulia or Zillow without paying an arm and a leg. I get better results from my own personal site. It would be nice if NAR would hold themselves to their own quotes. It is hard to gain alot of business from R.com, Trulia or Zillow without paying an arm and a leg. I get better results from my own personal site. It would be nice if NAR would hold themselves to their own quotes.

]]> By: Atlanta Real Estate http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-37848 Atlanta Real Estate Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:30:13 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-37848 NAR, ABR, XYZ...all the $400/year orgainzations with a zillion (forced) members. I never "donated" so much money to nothing in my entire professional life, prior to becoming an agent. RM NAR, ABR, XYZ…all the $400/year orgainzations with a zillion (forced) members.

I never “donated” so much money to nothing in my entire professional life, prior to becoming an agent.

RM

]]> By: Ken Horst http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33728 Ken Horst Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:45:27 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33728 I have to agree with John, is NAR the problem or is it Move Inc. Think about it folks, who couldn't take an Internet property like Realtor.com and put it to good use? God only knows how much money they blew on the Activerain debacle. That money could have been spent on attracting more home buyers if nothing else. I have to agree with John, is NAR the problem or is it Move Inc. Think about it folks, who couldn’t take an Internet property like Realtor.com and put it to good use? God only knows how much money they blew on the Activerain debacle. That money could have been spent on attracting more home buyers if nothing else.

]]> By: John Wake http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33715 John Wake Sun, 31 May 2009 07:44:42 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33715 NAR's decisions about the internet have been absolutely HORRIBLE (yes, I'm screaming). First they let a company founded by a guy who is still on trial for fraud to use the "Realtor.com" domain name! http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/15/BUDSUF57V.DTL Even more unbelievable, NAR still lets that same company (under a new name, Move Inc.) have the contract to provide NAR's Realtor.com web site. That was bad enough but then in 2003 NAR's leadership created a blatantly illegal internet policy which the Department of Justice jumped on, of course... but not until after the DOJ warned NAR for a long, long time they were going to jump on it. By taking on the DOJ and losing, those rocket scientists at NAR did more to hurt the image of Realtors than any image-building B.S. NAR has ever aired. Thanks guys. http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20030519_vowpolicypassess.htm http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20030623_lendingtreetroubles.htm "Cendant Real Estate Division CEO Richard Smith, along with other franchise leaders, including Dave Liniger of RE/MAX International and Bill Powers of Realty Executives, lobbied the NAR for a broker opt-out option that would enable brokers to choose which VOWs would be able to publish their listings." Today, I suspect Byzantine NAR politics explains why NAR lets Move.com provide the Realtor.com web site for NAR. I suppose gross incompetence is another possible explanation (look at NAR's internet track record). And bureaucratic inertia is certainly a factor. NAR should ask Zillow, Trulia, Google, et al. for proposals on what they could do if they were to provide the Realtor.com web site for NAR. I have absolutely no doubt that Realtors would get phenomenally better results at phenomenally lower prices with a different vendor providing the Realtor.com web site for NAR. Ya know, things are tough out there guys and NAR is absolutely wasting what could be a spectacularly useful tool for Realtors by giving the contract to Move.com. On the other hand, Move.com would be very unhappy if they lost the NAR contract. NAR’s decisions about the internet have been absolutely HORRIBLE (yes, I’m screaming).

First they let a company founded by a guy who is still on trial for fraud to use the “Realtor.com” domain name!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....SUF57V.DTL

Even more unbelievable, NAR still lets that same company (under a new name, Move Inc.) have the contract to provide NAR’s Realtor.com web site.

That was bad enough but then in 2003 NAR’s leadership created a blatantly illegal internet policy which the Department of Justice jumped on, of course… but not until after the DOJ warned NAR for a long, long time they were going to jump on it. By taking on the DOJ and losing, those rocket scientists at NAR did more to hurt the image of Realtors than any image-building B.S. NAR has ever aired. Thanks guys.

http://realtytimes.com/rtpages.....assess.htm

http://realtytimes.com/rtpages.....oubles.htm
“Cendant Real Estate Division CEO Richard Smith, along with other franchise leaders, including Dave Liniger of RE/MAX International and Bill Powers of Realty Executives, lobbied the NAR for a broker opt-out option that would enable brokers to choose which VOWs would be able to publish their listings.”

Today, I suspect Byzantine NAR politics explains why NAR lets Move.com provide the Realtor.com web site for NAR. I suppose gross incompetence is another possible explanation (look at NAR’s internet track record). And bureaucratic inertia is certainly a factor.

NAR should ask Zillow, Trulia, Google, et al. for proposals on what they could do if they were to provide the Realtor.com web site for NAR.

I have absolutely no doubt that Realtors would get phenomenally better results at phenomenally lower prices with a different vendor providing the Realtor.com web site for NAR.

Ya know, things are tough out there guys and NAR is absolutely wasting what could be a spectacularly useful tool for Realtors by giving the contract to Move.com.

On the other hand, Move.com would be very unhappy if they lost the NAR contract.

]]> By: Paula Henry http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33710 Paula Henry Sat, 30 May 2009 22:36:00 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33710 I, too, have been accused of being a NAR hater - not so! I believe Realtors should have the same rights to publish our information as R.com. I do not see any benefit from R.com, Trulia or Zillow, not because I don't like them, I've just never seen any business from it. None of it is actually free - it costs us everyday. The wool is sufficiently in place over many eyes! I, too, have been accused of being a NAR hater – not so! I believe Realtors should have the same rights to publish our information as R.com. I do not see any benefit from R.com, Trulia or Zillow, not because I don’t like them, I’ve just never seen any business from it.

None of it is actually free – it costs us everyday. The wool is sufficiently in place over many eyes!

]]> By: Karen Rice http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33680 Karen Rice Sat, 30 May 2009 11:22:43 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33680 Fred - I really couldn't care less about the alternative models on Realtor.com. Personally I think it's offensive to let FSBOs post on there. Furthermore, my biggest beef with Realtor.com is that it is SO limited unless you are willing to pay mucho bucks....when other sites like Zillow and Trulia give you so much more free. Have I gotten any business from Zillow or Trulia? No idea - people don't know what site they found me on. Have I gotten any business directly from enhanced listings on R.com? A few inquiries, and sold one listing myself, an office worker sold another one of my listings. In two plus years, I have had two sales that were directly a result of R.com. Wow. Pardon me if I'm underwhelmed. I would expect a much bigger ROI from the "#1 Real Estate Site in the World." Fred – I really couldn’t care less about the alternative models on Realtor.com. Personally I think it’s offensive to let FSBOs post on there.

Furthermore, my biggest beef with Realtor.com is that it is SO limited unless you are willing to pay mucho bucks….when other sites like Zillow and Trulia give you so much more free.

Have I gotten any business from Zillow or Trulia? No idea – people don’t know what site they found me on.

Have I gotten any business directly from enhanced listings on R.com? A few inquiries, and sold one listing myself, an office worker sold another one of my listings. In two plus years, I have had two sales that were directly a result of R.com.

Wow. Pardon me if I’m underwhelmed. I would expect a much bigger ROI from the “#1 Real Estate Site in the World.”

]]> By: Daily Digest for 2009-05-29 | Joe Spake - Memphis Real Estate http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33677 Daily Digest for 2009-05-29 | Joe Spake - Memphis Real Estate Sat, 30 May 2009 08:08:22 +0000 http://agentgenius.com/g-rants-insanity-more/realtors/realtors-coming-out-of-the-closet-2/#comment-33677 [...] Posted an item Joe Spake: Realtors Coming Out of the Closet | Real Estate Blog Magazine - Real Estate Opinion Colum... [...] [...] Posted an item Joe Spake: Realtors Coming Out of the Closet | Real Estate Blog Magazine – Real Estate Opinion Colum… [...]

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