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	<title>Comments on: Why do Realtors Hate Realtor.com so Much? Is it The Brand Name? If it Were Named Move.com, Would They Still Hate it?</title>
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		<title>By: John Wake</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If NAR has to use Move Inc. or no one to run Realtor.com, I vote for no one and shutting down Realtor.com. 

And how about some competition, NAR could have a few consumer websites, for example, Realtors.com, RealtorHomes.com, RealtorRealEstate.com or RealtorDirectory.com.  NAR members could choose which website they want to patronize with their business. Choice is good.

And would someone please publish this supposed agreement with Move Inc.!  My B.S. detector is going crazy.  I have a feeling the agreement is not as promoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If NAR has to use Move Inc. or no one to run Realtor.com, I vote for no one and shutting down Realtor.com. </p>
<p>And how about some competition, NAR could have a few consumer websites, for example, Realtors.com, RealtorHomes.com, RealtorRealEstate.com or RealtorDirectory.com.  NAR members could choose which website they want to patronize with their business. Choice is good.</p>
<p>And would someone please publish this supposed agreement with Move Inc.!  My B.S. detector is going crazy.  I have a feeling the agreement is not as promoted.</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephanie crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I seem to remember hearing a long time ago that R.com was going to start using four pics for free. That&#039;s not happening in my area. Any news on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I seem to remember hearing a long time ago that R.com was going to start using four pics for free. That&#8217;s not happening in my area. Any news on that?</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephanie crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with @Mike Bowler (10:09 pm). Higher dues for more services and complete syndication.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is NAR obligated to provide Move with listings?

@Mike - Instead of $120 a year in dues for all, how about an opt in annual subscription along the lines of what realestateshows.com does? This would be available for the listing agent only - no company wide broker syndication of all listings. Included in the subscription would be an agent profile page/blog which would also list their active listings and agent specific contact info. No reason for buyer agents to pay for what they never use, but if they wanted the profile, they could still pay the subscription.

Sooner or later there will have to be an industry wide standard for mls data. One click and your listings are syndicated to R.com.

I asked earlier if NAR has a non-compete with Move. Does anyone know the answer? If they dont and NAR cant get Move to get it together, NAR still has R.org. There is no tech reason why you couldn&#039;t have the membership login side and the public facing side with the listings. 

Anyone see any glaring holes in this proposal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is NAR obligated to provide Move with listings?</p>
<p>@Mike &#8211; Instead of $120 a year in dues for all, how about an opt in annual subscription along the lines of what realestateshows.com does? This would be available for the listing agent only &#8211; no company wide broker syndication of all listings. Included in the subscription would be an agent profile page/blog which would also list their active listings and agent specific contact info. No reason for buyer agents to pay for what they never use, but if they wanted the profile, they could still pay the subscription.</p>
<p>Sooner or later there will have to be an industry wide standard for mls data. One click and your listings are syndicated to R.com.</p>
<p>I asked earlier if NAR has a non-compete with Move. Does anyone know the answer? If they dont and NAR cant get Move to get it together, NAR still has R.org. There is no tech reason why you couldn&#8217;t have the membership login side and the public facing side with the listings. </p>
<p>Anyone see any glaring holes in this proposal?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Pope-Handy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Pope-Handy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had subscriptions for enhanced listings and currently dropped it because I have never seen a return (sale) on it.  But without paying the fee, Realtor.com won&#039;t show all the pics and won&#039;t show the virtual tour. It&#039;s like being held hostage by my own organization and I really don&#039;t appreciate it.

Perhaps most bothersome to me of all, though, is that a percentage of the listings showcased on R.com aren&#039;t even from members - they are members of the MLS, but not Realtors at all. 

I have never, ever had the sense that Realtor.com was there to serve the needs of the Realtors. I guess that&#039;s the bottom line.  Maybe I should adjust that a little: by hiring @tcar, I see a move in the right direction. Hopefully there will be an upswing from here.  Todd&#039;s a good guy and I have to believe he will do his best to take care of the members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had subscriptions for enhanced listings and currently dropped it because I have never seen a return (sale) on it.  But without paying the fee, Realtor.com won&#8217;t show all the pics and won&#8217;t show the virtual tour. It&#8217;s like being held hostage by my own organization and I really don&#8217;t appreciate it.</p>
<p>Perhaps most bothersome to me of all, though, is that a percentage of the listings showcased on R.com aren&#8217;t even from members &#8211; they are members of the MLS, but not Realtors at all. </p>
<p>I have never, ever had the sense that Realtor.com was there to serve the needs of the Realtors. I guess that&#8217;s the bottom line.  Maybe I should adjust that a little: by hiring @tcar, I see a move in the right direction. Hopefully there will be an upswing from here.  Todd&#8217;s a good guy and I have to believe he will do his best to take care of the members.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has NAR sold its Soul to the Move.com Devil, or can NAR get its Trade Name back from these misfits? 

     A Real Estate website that is Difficult to Navigate, yielding incorrect and incomplete Search Results, based on what, 1990&#039;s technology?

    Realtors cannot provide basic telephone numbers, complete descriptions, or outside links without paying extortion fees to Move.com .  

    We get high-pressure sales calls for expensive upgrades, featured listings, showcase ads, banner ads, etc.   I paid for this stuff once; cost analysis showed that the money is far better spent elsewhere. 

    Ranting on here - no Blog, no Social Media, no Comments.  This is 2009 - get with the program already!

     Come on NAR - support your Members by ditching Move.com, and producing a state of the art website that serves your Members.

Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has NAR sold its Soul to the Move.com Devil, or can NAR get its Trade Name back from these misfits? </p>
<p>     A Real Estate website that is Difficult to Navigate, yielding incorrect and incomplete Search Results, based on what, 1990&#8217;s technology?</p>
<p>    Realtors cannot provide basic telephone numbers, complete descriptions, or outside links without paying extortion fees to Move.com .  </p>
<p>    We get high-pressure sales calls for expensive upgrades, featured listings, showcase ads, banner ads, etc.   I paid for this stuff once; cost analysis showed that the money is far better spent elsewhere. </p>
<p>    Ranting on here &#8211; no Blog, no Social Media, no Comments.  This is 2009 &#8211; get with the program already!</p>
<p>     Come on NAR &#8211; support your Members by ditching Move.com, and producing a state of the art website that serves your Members.</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bowler Sr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bowler Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s something to think about:

1. Realtor.com should be FREE (enhanced version) to all Realtor members. 

2. Raise the National Realtor dues by $120.00 per year per member. 

3. Dump the Move.com name and continue to promote Realtor.com

4. Organize a merger between Trulia, Zillow and Move to get the best of all companies available to all agents on one good name.

5. NAR would take stake in the newly formed company.

6. NAR sets the rules. You want our product, you do it our way to give the consumer what they want, which is listings enhanced. 

Thinking outside the box is what it&#039;s called. We need to force some changes. Think about what they could do with 120 million dollars per year. ($120.00 X 1 million members) Think about how many agents would get excited about Realtor.com at $10.00 a month. Think about how are lives would be simplified by not having to maintain and constantly check 3-4 major portals for accuracy. 

OK, I&#039;m going to go hide now and see what kind of feedback I hear on this. Thanks for being open minded and thinking outside the box. It won&#039;t be the same as it is today 3 to 5 years from now. @MIrealestate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something to think about:</p>
<p>1. Realtor.com should be FREE (enhanced version) to all Realtor members. </p>
<p>2. Raise the National Realtor dues by $120.00 per year per member. </p>
<p>3. Dump the Move.com name and continue to promote Realtor.com</p>
<p>4. Organize a merger between Trulia, Zillow and Move to get the best of all companies available to all agents on one good name.</p>
<p>5. NAR would take stake in the newly formed company.</p>
<p>6. NAR sets the rules. You want our product, you do it our way to give the consumer what they want, which is listings enhanced. </p>
<p>Thinking outside the box is what it&#8217;s called. We need to force some changes. Think about what they could do with 120 million dollars per year. ($120.00 X 1 million members) Think about how many agents would get excited about Realtor.com at $10.00 a month. Think about how are lives would be simplified by not having to maintain and constantly check 3-4 major portals for accuracy. </p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m going to go hide now and see what kind of feedback I hear on this. Thanks for being open minded and thinking outside the box. It won&#8217;t be the same as it is today 3 to 5 years from now. @MIrealestate</p>
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